<P> Some individuals in history have, at least in principle, rejected the view that humans have duties of any kind to animals . </P> <P> Augustine of Hippo seemed to take such a position in his writings against those he saw as heretics: "For we see and hear by their cries that animals die with pain, although man disregards this in a beast, with which, as not having a rational soul, we have no community of rights ." </P> <P> Animal rights advocates, such as Gary L. Francione and Tom Regan, argue that the animal welfare position (advocating for the betterment of the condition of animals, but without abolishing animal use) is inconsistent in logic and ethically unacceptable . However, there are some animal right groups, such as PETA, which support animal welfare measures in the short term to alleviate animal suffering until all animal use is ended . </P> <P> According to PETA's Ingrid Newkirk in an interview with Wikinews, there are two issues in animal welfare and animal rights . "If I only could have one thing, it would be to end suffering", said Newkirk . "If you could take things from animals and kill animals all day long without causing them suffering, then I would take it...Everybody should be able to agree that animals should not suffer if you kill them or steal from them by taking the fur off their backs or take their eggs, whatever . But you shouldn't put them through torture to do that ." </P>

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