<P> There is a well - known story of Hui - neng, a well - respected Buddhist monk who later became known as the founder of the Zen school, who one day happened to be passing by two monks . </P> <Dl> <Dd> "Two monks were arguing about the temple flag waving in the wind . One said, "The flag moves ." The other said, "The wind moves ." They argued back and forth but could not agree . </Dd> <Dd> The Sixth Ancestor said, "Gentlemen! It is not the wind that moves; it is not the flag that moves; it is your mind that moves ." The two monks were struck with awe ." </Dd> <Dd> - The Mumonkan Case 29, translation by Robert Aitken </Dd> </Dl> <Dd> "Two monks were arguing about the temple flag waving in the wind . One said, "The flag moves ." The other said, "The wind moves ." They argued back and forth but could not agree . </Dd> <Dd> The Sixth Ancestor said, "Gentlemen! It is not the wind that moves; it is not the flag that moves; it is your mind that moves ." The two monks were struck with awe ." </Dd>

If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound if no one is there to hear it