<P> Homer offers contradictory portrayals of Nestor as a source of advice . On one hand, Homer describes him as a wise man; Nestor repeatedly offers advice to the Achaeans that has been claimed to be anachronistic in Homer's time--for example, arranging the armies by tribes and clans or effectively using chariots in battle . Yet at the same time Nestor's advice is frequently ineffective . Some examples include Nestor accepting without question the dream Zeus plants in Agamemnon in Book 2 and urging the Achaeans to battle, instructing the Achaeans in Book 4 to use spear techniques that in actuality would be disastrous, and in Book 11 giving advice to Patroclus that ultimately leads to his death . Yet Nestor is never questioned and instead is frequently praised . </P> <P> Hanna Roisman explains that the characters in the Iliad ignore the discrepancy between the quality of Nestor's advice and its outcomes because, in the world of the Iliad, "outcomes are ultimately in the hands of the ever arbitrary and fickle gods...heroes are not necessarily viewed as responsible when things go awry ." In the Iliad, people are judged not necessarily in the modern view of results, but as people . Therefore Nestor should be viewed as a good counselor because of the qualities he possesses as described in his introduction in Book 1--as a man of "sweet words," a "clear - voiced orator," and whose voice "flows sweeter than honey ." These are elements that make up Nestor, and they parallel the elements that Homer describes as part of a good counselor at Iliad 3.150--152 . Therefore, "the definition tells us that Nestor, as a good advisor, possesses the three features...that it designates ." Nestor is a good counselor inherently, and the consequences of his advice have no bearing on that, a view that differs from how good counselors are viewed today . </P> <P> In James Joyce's Ulysses, the 2nd episode chapter is named after Nestor . The character Garrett Deasy stands for Nestor . </P>

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